These are not concrete clues but we have indeed found some patterns that can help people avoid ending up at Pat Carson's. As always, use your own best judgement.
Do NOT go somewhere alone or in the middle of the night. Bring a friend or two and get their opinion.
Make sure people know exactly where you are going, that you have your own way of leaving at all times, that you have a cell phone.
Do NOT travel here on your last dime with no way to return! This sadly has happened to a number of people, read the comments .
Pat Carson gives his place as a set of coordinates or geographical directions. Search Google maps and see if it is in Onoway, Alberta or near Sandy Beach. This is where Pat Carson lives and lures people out to. Google the address or call the Morinville RCMP and confirm if the address is for Pat Carson.
1) No phone number given
If you are dealing with a legitimate ranch owner inviting you out for a visit or for paid work or room and board, they should have a phone number. Google that phone number. Call the police in the area and check whose phone number it is.
Pat Carson does not give out his phone number as every time he does, we get it and post it here. That said, if you have Pat Carson's new number, please let us know so we can post it as well :)
If you are responding to an ad and they won't give you a number but instead ask for yours so they can call you.......it's probably Pat.
IF he gives you a name (he uses many aliases, the latest is "Bill O'Brian") Google the name.
2) The ad you are responding to is a) on Kijiji and b) has many grammatical errors and misspelled words or is in broken English
Not sure why this is, but this is frequently the case. If you read the ad and it seems "off" and not like an ad that a healthy, friendly, modern human being that interacts with other humans would write.... I mean, it's probably Pat. Or Richard, his helper.
The ads also tend to mention these things: escaping the rat race, returning to a traditional way of life, heritage, homestead, helping veterans or people with PTSD, wild black currants, healing circle, "spiritual land", wild horses, preserving native land, cancer cures, healing vortex, learn a trade etc etc etc
3) The ranch has no website or Facebook page
Or if they do, it is obvious it is new and not interacted with for years back. There are no well written, quality posts. Or it looks really substandard and strange. Reverse image search any pictures that appear there.
There are some legitimate ranches in the Onoway area and you can tell by their Facebook page, which has quality posts, pictures and reviews left by multiple people spanning back for years.
4) You talk to the person who placed the ad and they give you a bad vibe or sound creepy or ask strange or inappropriate questions that make you uncomfortable
Many people, myself included, ended up getting involved with Pat despite alarms bells ringing in my head. "Don't judge", you may think. Stop jumping to conclusions, we tell ourselves.
There is something inside all humans that responds this way to a predator. Learn to listen to your intuition.
He has a way of skirting around answering questions. Be aware of this.
If he gives you a number, it may be for a local business. Check the number.
5) No dogs are allowed
Good luck finding a functioning ranch with other animals, in Alberta, where no dogs are allowed. It seems Pat is the only one!
We suspect there is a terrifying, sorrowful and chilling reason why Pat does not want dogs sniffing around his property.
Do NOT go somewhere alone or in the middle of the night. Bring a friend or two and get their opinion.
Make sure people know exactly where you are going, that you have your own way of leaving at all times, that you have a cell phone.
Do NOT travel here on your last dime with no way to return! This sadly has happened to a number of people, read the comments .
Pat Carson gives his place as a set of coordinates or geographical directions. Search Google maps and see if it is in Onoway, Alberta or near Sandy Beach. This is where Pat Carson lives and lures people out to. Google the address or call the Morinville RCMP and confirm if the address is for Pat Carson.
1) No phone number given
If you are dealing with a legitimate ranch owner inviting you out for a visit or for paid work or room and board, they should have a phone number. Google that phone number. Call the police in the area and check whose phone number it is.
Pat Carson does not give out his phone number as every time he does, we get it and post it here. That said, if you have Pat Carson's new number, please let us know so we can post it as well :)
If you are responding to an ad and they won't give you a number but instead ask for yours so they can call you.......it's probably Pat.
IF he gives you a name (he uses many aliases, the latest is "Bill O'Brian") Google the name.
2) The ad you are responding to is a) on Kijiji and b) has many grammatical errors and misspelled words or is in broken English
Not sure why this is, but this is frequently the case. If you read the ad and it seems "off" and not like an ad that a healthy, friendly, modern human being that interacts with other humans would write.... I mean, it's probably Pat. Or Richard, his helper.
The ads also tend to mention these things: escaping the rat race, returning to a traditional way of life, heritage, homestead, helping veterans or people with PTSD, wild black currants, healing circle, "spiritual land", wild horses, preserving native land, cancer cures, healing vortex, learn a trade etc etc etc
3) The ranch has no website or Facebook page
Or if they do, it is obvious it is new and not interacted with for years back. There are no well written, quality posts. Or it looks really substandard and strange. Reverse image search any pictures that appear there.
There are some legitimate ranches in the Onoway area and you can tell by their Facebook page, which has quality posts, pictures and reviews left by multiple people spanning back for years.
4) You talk to the person who placed the ad and they give you a bad vibe or sound creepy or ask strange or inappropriate questions that make you uncomfortable
Many people, myself included, ended up getting involved with Pat despite alarms bells ringing in my head. "Don't judge", you may think. Stop jumping to conclusions, we tell ourselves.
There is something inside all humans that responds this way to a predator. Learn to listen to your intuition.
He has a way of skirting around answering questions. Be aware of this.
If he gives you a number, it may be for a local business. Check the number.
5) No dogs are allowed
Good luck finding a functioning ranch with other animals, in Alberta, where no dogs are allowed. It seems Pat is the only one!
We suspect there is a terrifying, sorrowful and chilling reason why Pat does not want dogs sniffing around his property.
He actually just doesn't want them *INSIDE* his house. Same as most ranches I think.
ReplyDeletethis is horrifying. im in California but I need to know there are always going to be bad people somewhere.
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